Singapore’s 1st on TechCrunch: Velvet Puffin

by bjornlee

vp.pngWe were pretty excited to learn of Velvet Puffin’s (VP) lightning rise to the top of the local Web2.0 pile today; first the local Business Times feature and then the “Web 2.0 Richter Scale” of Techcrunch. Both founders, R Chandrasekar and Sam Hon are 26 and Velvet Puffin is a project under Radixs, a 60-person company both have founded since 2002. Co-founder Chandrasekar also reveals a total of $10million financing (seed and Series A) for the startup from Purple Ray, Artisan Encipta and the Singapore Economic Development Board.

pic3.pngVelvet Puffin is a new dual- screen (mobile and desktop) social networking service that is positioned as THE “Always ON” social networking service; enabling seamless access and sharing of media like photos, video, blogs between the mobile and (broadband-connected) desktop domains. Its slogan is aptly named: “IM meets Social Networking”.

All this publicity was well-timed before its official public beta launch at 12 midnight (Eastern Standard Time). So we bided our time in anticipation..

We must say our initial responses (Royston and I) to the site was good. The GUI looks delicious and sleek with all that Flash. It certainly raised our expectations as we proceeded to breeze through the necessary downloading of the desktop IM client which is essential for the functioning of the service. I must say this was a weird move by the developers to adopt a “web-to-desktop” after the whole Web2.0 craze was built on the back of the “desktop-to-web” service delivery method. This was reverse Meebo (the web-only IM client).

Dual Download a Hassle

After the first desktop download of the IM client, a second download was required for the mobile phone to make the two devices start talking. This was a real hassle as I couldn’t get it to work on my mobile phone (a Motorola Razr V3X). Perhaps its just another Motorola problem and i will try a Nokia later on. But a list of compatible phones on the site will be real helpful. It took a long while to get the SMS to be sent to my Singapore phone number too as the website seems to have the phone number protocol set to the US version. This is strange considering the company’s Singaporean roots. I wonder how many US consumers will bite considering the low SMS usage patterns in the US market (one major market according to Business Times). Getting today’s users to download two pieces of software for a service to work sounds like one too many for the attention-deficient youth crowd. We want things to work, pronto.

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Integration with Existing IM Services

vp_im.pngThe IM client worked well though on both the IE and Firefox browsers. I liked it for the fact it was able to nicely import all the contacts from MSN, Yahoo and AOL/ ICQ services. However, this is all not new. Trilian, Meebo and a host of other IM convergence tools can do this already. Whats the “killer feature” here for VP will be the availability of such popular desktop IM services on the mobile phone.

The Souped-up IM Client

There were 4 main features on the desktop IM client: blog posting, poll creation, video and photo sharing/ uploading. Despite the clean design of the client, I found the photo and video features lacking as they were not unable to tap on users’ existing collections on popular sites like Flickr, Photobucket (photos) or Youtube, Metacafe. Neither could existing blog posts be exported to the desktop client. puffin-1.pngWhats really weird too is how each of these features causes mini-windows to appear on your desktop, creating islands of widgets that litter your screen. The translucency of these windows (so prevalent in Web 2.0 design) make reading difficult indeed and useability, in this instance, has to take precedence over aesthetics (click on thumbnail for more).

Since this is still only a beta version, there’s hope such features will be integrated since the developers provide for video viewing and in-site search and browsing of videos in the Youtube, Metacafe and Google Video databases. It is not entirely difficult to implement the integration with these web services.

The Puzzling Silo Approach

More integration of the desktop IM client and the website’s content is certainly crucial in the coming days. The “silo approach” of separating web content from the desktop client is a big boo-boo considering the richness of web-based media. I certainly did not understand what founder Chandrasekar means by:

Users can also access shared content without the need for a Web browser..”

Considering that the IM client requires a broadband connection, I certainly do not see why there was a need to make the IM client the “new browser” with its own functions for data sharing.

Revenue Model

How social networks make money is a new concern considering the presence of the industry juggernaut MySpace. VP certainly differentiates itself as a mobile phone-targeted social network and this makes sense considering the lack of a clear leader in this space and the faltering efforts of the other networks like Myspace, Facebook, Bebo in translating their web dominance to the mobile domain.

The founder Chandrasekar outlines 3 models:

- contextual advertising (most likely Google)

- revenue share of data transfer over mobile phones with telcos (with a potential deal with a regional telco mentioned [Singtel?])

- royalties from device makers who pre-load VP software

I like to see how VP intends to serve ads on the mobile phones and get users to pay for the data at the same time. Hopefully, the first 2 revenue models are mutually exclusive because the price of mobile data plans is a reason why social media is exclusive to the web (and not mobile) where the marginal cost of one extra photo or video is free. Data plan price points will be a major barrier as VP ties up with carriers.

“Unfriendly” Website Footer

A possible tip to the VP team will be to lessen the focus on legalese at the footer. Yes, respect for the law is important but your priority is the user. Instead of endearing themselves to their youth audience with the customary “About Us” or blog as is the custom for community-focused sites, this footer is packed with terms like “Privacy Policy”, “Terms of Access”, “Terms of Use” and “Copyright Law Notification”. VP should at least have a blog and start a conversation with its audience. Be proud of your product. Turn your footer into a marketing tool and community builder, not divider.

Conclusion

The PR and Design Teams of Velvet Puffin deserves high marks for the buzz generated ahead of the public beta and the sleekness throughout the whole site. Coming from Singapore, this is heartening to know we have local talent who can pull this off. While the service concept needs work in justifying why the desktop client approach is preferred to a browser-based service, the challenge will be to innovate the desktop client beyond what the native clients of MSN or Yahoo can do. Of course, this review lacks the critique of the mobile screen aspect, an important pillar of this “always on” service. The success determinant, assuming a functional mobile service, is still in the choice of target user markets and the data plans negotiated with the carriers.

Finally, props still to our first high-profile local Web 2.0 startup. We wish you success!

Update on MOBILE Platform: I tried the service with a Nokia 6280 (a Starhub line) and managed to download the mobile client successfully, which was later saved to my “Games” folder. I was able to login to my IM client (both the native Velvet Puffin and MSN). There is a discrepancy between the desktop and mobile IM clients in reporting the number of online and visible friends though. (34 on my desktop vs 19 on mobile). Attempts at using the other Velvet Puffin features, such as photos, videos, blogs, polls and even profile views, failed due to long loading times. (Perhaps the service was too popular?) Without these enhanced features, I couldn’t see why any user would choose this over SMS. Velvet Puffin had prided itself on its MXI mobile operating system which allows for full-fledged desktop apps to run on mobile phones without source code redevelopment. (via ZDNet Asia) Whats also noteworthy is this service had debuted in a more private beta earlier and had about 3000 users within 2 months before last night’s public beta. (via San Jose Mercury News) Would love to get hold of one of those 3000 to hear from them.

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  • roystontay

    At first sight, it’d seem insane to move in the opposite direction of getting pple to download desktop apps rather than going web-based. Honestly, there’s no way I’d download more than one IM client to clog up my desktop. Inherently, here lies the opportunity for velvetpuffin – To become the ONLY IM client that anyone would download. i.e. displacing MSN messenger (in the asian context) or AIM (in the states). Integrating with existing IM services is just the beginning (gaim, trillian already does that). A new desktop client has to justify its existence by providing rich services that web-based apps like Meebo can’t provide and which also surpasses existing IM clients in terms of aggregating content to be viewed within the application itself. I’d rather watch a video clip within the app rather than be directed to a link on MSN’s page.

    Social networking on IM could very well be velvet’s killer app. But before that, get the IM basics right – and I meant basic features like group chat, voice chat etc.. Currently, I don’t see myself removing MSN. And my only-one-IM-client-on-my-laptop rule still stands..guess what goes?

  • http://www.zopim.com roystontay

    At first sight, it’d seem insane to move in the opposite direction of getting pple to download desktop apps rather than going web-based. Honestly, there’s no way I’d download more than one IM client to clog up my desktop. Inherently, here lies the opportunity for velvetpuffin – To become the ONLY IM client that anyone would download. i.e. displacing MSN messenger (in the asian context) or AIM (in the states). Integrating with existing IM services is just the beginning (gaim, trillian already does that). A new desktop client has to justify its existence by providing rich services that web-based apps like Meebo can’t provide and which also surpasses existing IM clients in terms of aggregating content to be viewed within the application itself. I’d rather watch a video clip within the app rather than be directed to a link on MSN’s page.

    Social networking on IM could very well be velvet’s killer app. But before that, get the IM basics right – and I meant basic features like group chat, voice chat etc.. Currently, I don’t see myself removing MSN. And my only-one-IM-client-on-my-laptop rule still stands..guess what goes?

  • manonthestreet

    To become the ONLY IM client that anyone would download. i.e. displacing MSN messenger (in the asian context) or AIM (in the states)??

    What’s the likelihood of that happening?

  • manonthestreet

    To become the ONLY IM client that anyone would download. i.e. displacing MSN messenger (in the asian context) or AIM (in the states)??

    What’s the likelihood of that happening?

  • http://dickson.sg/ dickson

    The server hosting the mobile app seems to be down as my trusty old K700i was unable to download it. The PC version seems a bit too new-agey for my liking, and it is using much more memory resource (94k)than msn (38k) or googletalk (7k)

  • http://dickson.sg/ dickson

    The server hosting the mobile app seems to be down as my trusty old K700i was unable to download it. The PC version seems a bit too new-agey for my liking, and it is using much more memory resource (94k)than msn (38k) or googletalk (7k)

  • ivebert

    looks rubbish to me..
    there are tons of similar im client with social networking features out there…
    10 million down the drain!

  • ivebert

    looks rubbish to me..
    there are tons of similar im client with social networking features out there…
    10 million down the drain!

  • amanda
  • amanda
  • bjornlee

    @ amanda, nice, koolim seems to do exactly what meebo already does. are you involved with them?

  • http://www.bjornlee.com bjornlee

    @ amanda, nice, koolim seems to do exactly what meebo already does. are you involved with them?

  • quickly

    con man. a bunch of conman with bogus software. pulling salary off the VC funds and seeds funding.

    i’m amazed how MXI, after being hyped for so long, is still nothing now. and there are more idiots who are feeding the 2nd round of funding.

    there are stupid people, which is the reason why some of us are smarter..

  • quickly

    con man. a bunch of conman with bogus software. pulling salary off the VC funds and seeds funding.

    i’m amazed how MXI, after being hyped for so long, is still nothing now. and there are more idiots who are feeding the 2nd round of funding.

    there are stupid people, which is the reason why some of us are smarter..

  • bjornlee

    @ivebert and quickly,

    do be constructive in your feedback. at least these guys are ekeing out an idea they believe in. you guys could do with more optimism in your life rather than scepticism. =)

  • http://www.bjornlee.com bjornlee

    @ivebert and quickly,

    do be constructive in your feedback. at least these guys are ekeing out an idea they believe in. you guys could do with more optimism in your life rather than scepticism. =)

  • roystontay

    manonthestreet>> u’re right, its unlikely if it stays as it is now.. but being able to aggregate content from all over the web and allowing users to view them within the app does gives it an edge over msn which can only point users to their own (boring) msn clips.

  • http://www.zopim.com roystontay

    manonthestreet>> u’re right, its unlikely if it stays as it is now.. but being able to aggregate content from all over the web and allowing users to view them within the app does gives it an edge over msn which can only point users to their own (boring) msn clips.

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    [...] Andreas Weigend, Former Chief Scientist of Amazon.com, Nathan Torkington from O’Reilly Radar, Velvet Puffin, Shwup, Genometri and [...]

  • http://www.azia.us/blog/singapore/2007/03/27/spot-future-trends-and-developments-of-the-packaged-foods-meats-markets-in-singapore-business-wire-via-yahoo-finance/ Singapore » Blog Archive » Spot Future Trends and Developments of the Packaged Foods & Meats Markets in Singapore (Business Wire via Yahoo! Finance)

    [...] It took a long while to get the SMS to be sent to my Singapore phone number too as the website seems to have the phone number protocol set to the US version. This is strange considering the company s Singaporean roots. … – more – [...]

  • http://whysgentrepreneurssuck.com/2007/04/01/velvet-puffin-the-next-myspace/ Velvet Puffin: the next MySpace? at Why S’porean Entrepreneurs Suck

    [...] off the wrong footing: I totally agree with bjornlee in Entrepreneur 27’s review of VP, where he chided the VP team for doing little to endear itself to its user base. VP might [...]

  • http://whysgentrepreneurssuck.com/2007/04/01/velvet-puffin-spore-myspace-wannabe/ Velvet Puffin: S’pore’s MySpace wannabe at Why S’porean Entrepreneurs Suck

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  • defeated

    It takes balls and entrepreneuring spirit to do what they did.
    It’s so easy shooting them down with cynical views. Instead we should be cheering them on. (doesn’t mean we use thier product)

    But i must say garnering 10 Million for a project like that takes tremendous marketing and business sense. Especially in todays cautious investing environment.

    Kudos to the boys and girls over at VelvetPuffin. Time to do better.

  • defeated

    It takes balls and entrepreneuring spirit to do what they did.
    It’s so easy shooting them down with cynical views. Instead we should be cheering them on. (doesn’t mean we use thier product)

    But i must say garnering 10 Million for a project like that takes tremendous marketing and business sense. Especially in todays cautious investing environment.

    Kudos to the boys and girls over at VelvetPuffin. Time to do better.

  • Claudia

    Check out their blog –> http://blog.velvetpuffin.com/. It’s up and they’re beginning to address the issues raised..

  • Claudia

    Check out their blog –> http://blog.velvetpuffin.com/. It’s up and they’re beginning to address the issues raised..

  • Jimmy Lim

    Anyone tried pfingoACTIVE? I’ve used pfingoACTIVE & compared it with Velvet. pfingoACTIVE is a nicer to use product, much lighter and faster on the phones with similar features.

  • Jimmy Lim

    Anyone tried pfingoACTIVE? I’ve used pfingoACTIVE & compared it with Velvet. pfingoACTIVE is a nicer to use product, much lighter and faster on the phones with similar features.

  • Justin

    @Jimmy Lim,

    I’m a beta tester of pfingoACTIVE. I guess they’re really two different animals. Yes pfingo does provide IM, but it doesnt do photo and video sharing.

    Personally, I’ve not managed to try out VelvetPuffin. I will do so when there is opportunity and hopefully can give u guys some impressions.

  • admin

    @Jimmy Lim,

    I’m a beta tester of pfingoACTIVE. I guess they’re really two different animals. Yes pfingo does provide IM, but it doesnt do photo and video sharing.

    Personally, I’ve not managed to try out VelvetPuffin. I will do so when there is opportunity and hopefully can give u guys some impressions.

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